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Tim Tebow, circumcision expert

tebowcut.jpgHow did Florida’s stud quarterback Tim Tebow spend his spring break?

Tebow, the Florida quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner, spent spring break in the Philippines and — according to Dave Curtis of the Orlando Sentinel — helped circumcise impoverished children.

Tebow, who has no surgical training, was visiting an orphanage his father’s ministry runs in the country and assisted with the care of locals who had walked miles to the temporary clinic the ministry helped organize.

“The first time, it was nerve-racking,” he said. “Hands were shaking a little bit. I mean, I’m cutting somebody. You can’t do those kinds of things in the United States. But those people really needed the surgeries. We needed to help them.”

I loved Deadspin’s headline on this: “Tim Tebow has a steady hand, we hope” –Jim Buzinski




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48 Comments on “Tim Tebow, circumcision expert”

  1. #1 Mark Lyndon
    on May 5th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    “But those people really needed the surgeries. We needed to help them.”

    How does anyone “need” the most sensitive part of their penis cutting off? About 80% of the world’s males are intact, and they manage juuuust fine.

    If he’d been in a country where they cut out the clitoral hood (the female foreskin), would he have helped out there too?

    The sooner this antiquated custom dies out, the better.

  2. #2 Joe Guckin
    on May 5th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    I’d say that if an impoverished child lives in an area where various diseases are easily spread, it might not be a bad idea.

  3. #3 Hugh7
    on May 5th, 2008 at 10:13 pm

    On the contrary, when you live in an area where various diseases are easily spread, an additional wound is a very bad idea. (And the many, many, ridiculously many medical claims for circumcision are all bogus or trivial. It’s originally about sex-magic, now cemented in place by custom and conformity.)

  4. #4 Ron Low
    on May 5th, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    This Tebow fellow should be ashamed of participating in a brutal ritual which minors are pressured to conform with.

    No national medical association on earth recommends routine circumcision.

  5. #5 Mikey B
    on May 6th, 2008 at 1:26 am

    Beyond the circumcision, the bigger issue is that neither Tim Tebow, nor any of these other people, seem to have received any formal medical training, other than a “crash course” in circumcisions. What happens if there are follow-on infections? What is the quality of the surgery? What health information did “Dr. Tebow” dispense?

    I also find it very sad that BEFORE these poor folks went to their “surgery” they went through a religious sermon. It seems they took advantage of desperate people to promote their religious message.

    And they stayed at “Uncle Dick’s Home”???? Sheesh.

  6. #6 Joe O.
    on May 6th, 2008 at 4:51 am

    I think the Doctors in the area know alittle more about what is best for the patients they have. What do any of you know about anything in the Phillipines? Relax guys!!! Why do people always have to knock others who are just serving people?

  7. #7 Bob in California
    on May 6th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Circumcision has become a routine ritual in the Phillipines. Fewer than 5% of males ever have a medical need for circumcision. Being that an untrained person was performing cosmetic surgery on pre-teen boys, I am appalled at any group that calls themselves a Christian group in condoning this. It is astounding. They should only be doing procedures that are medically necessary and those surgeries should be done by qualified professionals…not Tim Tebow! There are a variety of things that can go wrong with circumcisions.

  8. #8 Dan Strandjord
    on May 6th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Christians are NOT supposed to circumcise. Read Acts 15 and Galatians 5. The early Christian church forbids male circumcision without an absolute medical need. No national medical organization in the world recommends infant/child circumcision on heath grounds. The Christian viewpoint is that Jesus shed blood and died for all mankind. The Jewish blood sacrifice was done away with by a new covenant — faith in Jesus Christ.

    Circumcision is a very un-Christian thing to do.

    Shame on Tebow and all those who sexually mutilate children.

  9. #9 Kris
    on May 6th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    Who cares? He’s TT–he can do whatever he wants.

  10. #10 Zeke
    on May 6th, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    It’s absolutely ASTONISHING to me that there are actually people here defending the fact that a football player goes over to another country and with NO medical training whatsoever, and with hands shaking, cuts the foreskin off of boys (who can’t consent to the operation) and then laughs about how he couldn’t get away with it in the US.

    I know some people are cult like in their support for involutary male circumcision but the comments here are truly a disturbing eye opener of just how deep their lunacy goes.

  11. #11 Greg
    on May 6th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    It’s a poor reflection on outsports.com to parrot on article on child sexual abuse without comment. Shouldn’t a site related to sexual equality serve to call out those who repress the sexual equality of others? Circumcision on non consenting children is a violation of basic human rights. I wish leaders in the American gay community would explain how male circumcision is ‘different.’ I doubt lesbians would let pass Martina going to Africa to help circumcise young girls.

  12. #12 Jim Buzinski
    on May 6th, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    We reported the fact of what Tebow did and it’s your choice whether you wish to comment. I needn’t have an opinion on everything I post. This is a “talk” story that has gotten a fair amount of attention in the media.

  13. #13 Drew
    on May 7th, 2008 at 12:11 am

    I’m “cut” and quite pleased. Sorry, but the uncut, flacid penis looks like a plantain. And comparing circumcision to clitoral removal is just plain disingenuous.

  14. #14 TexJockWannabe
    on May 7th, 2008 at 12:32 am

    Well I was circumcised, born in 1961, when probably 95% of male infants were
    routinely “cut.” I certainly don’t feel traumatized or mutilated, and in fact an
    uncircumcised penis looks strange to me.

    BTW, I was most likely circumcised by a hung-over intern or resident at Baylor
    University Medical Center, Dallas, TX. :grin:

  15. #15 TexJockWannabe
    on May 7th, 2008 at 12:34 am

    BTW, I suppose that now, at age 46, I should get some shyster lawyer to file a
    specious class-action suit against BUMC for circumcising me. My parents consented to it, so I and my peers would have absolutely no basis to sue — but
    that never deterred any of these ambulance-chasers! :wink:

  16. #16 anthony
    on May 7th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    the comparison between ritual female circumcision and ritual male circumcision is completely appropriate and not at all disingenuous. the differences are only of degree, not kind. brutal and unnecessary for both sexes.

  17. #17 Drew
    on May 7th, 2008 at 6:49 pm

    So, a difference of degree, not kind, makes them the same? That’s like saying piercing your inftant daughter’s ears is the same as driving a stake through her heart.
    Folks there are a LOT more pressing issues to worry about than circumcision.

  18. #18 CJ
    on May 8th, 2008 at 1:00 am
  19. #19 jono
    on May 8th, 2008 at 4:30 am

    i spent MY spring break doin bypass surgeries in Florida!

  20. #20 mark
    on May 8th, 2008 at 9:28 am

    I’m furious that my parents had me circumcised. No one should be allowed to do this to someone too young to speak up for himself. This practice should be outlawed. The owner can have this done when, and if he chooses. I like the foreskin, it’s primitive, and it’s cool looking.

  21. #21 John
    on May 8th, 2008 at 9:51 am

    No, circumcision does not prevent AIDS and the study done in Africa can be disproven on multiple grounds.
    First, the scientists gave the circumcized men a much stronger message regarding safe-sex practices and abstinence than they gave to the men who remained uncircumcized. For the test to be scientifically accurate both sets of men had to receive the same sex education.
    Second, the scientists circumcized the intact men after a very short period of time. Too short to see any long-term effects caused by foreskin or a lack thereof.
    Third, if the study in Africa really does prove that circumcision prevents the spread of HIV/AIDS then it must apply to every group of humans around the world. However, Europe (where circumcision is extremely rare) has a much lower rate of HIV/AIDS than the United States where circumcision is much more prevalent.

    And finally, I think we in the gay community should all know by now that HIV/AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease that is spread through having sex without a condom. HIV/AIDS cannot be prevented through circumcision, it can be prevented through abstinence and the use of condoms.

  22. #22 CJ
    on May 8th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    Give it up John. The the transmission of the AIDS virus can be significantly reduced through circumcision.

    In scientific circles, the perceived links between male circumcision and HIV infection are nothing new. For years, AIDS researchers have observed that many African tribes that circumcise boys or young men had lower HIV rates than those that do not, and that Africa’s Islamic nations, where circumcision is near universal, had far fewer AIDS cases than predominantly Christian ones.

    Now, trials in Kenya, Uganda and South Africa have all shown that male circumcision significantly reduces a man’s risk of acquiring HIV. The three sets of trials have shown circumcised men are up 50 to 60% less likely to acquire HIV during heterosexual intercourse.

  23. #23 mark
    on May 9th, 2008 at 7:39 am

    HIV can not live outside it’s host for very long. Isn’t hygiene really the key factor here. I don’t think these ppl have access to soap and water as readily as others would have in a developed state.
    http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/rwanda-circumcise-all-men-even-if-it-means-more-hiv-infection/
    http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/HIV/

  24. #24 Zeke
    on May 9th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    CJ, don’t forget, it also prevents epilepsy, blindness, masturbation and hundreds of other horrible things. Science has proven it over the years. Of course science subsequently disproved such claims but let’s not cloud the issue with the facts.

    The African study has been roundly disproven based on nothing more than flawed methodology.

    For example, how do YOU explain how it is that the US (where the vast majority of men are circumcised) has the HIGHEST AIDS infection rate in the western world; even higher than European countries where homosexuality is more easily expressed but circumcision is very rare. How do YOU explain how the researchers in the African study claim that these results only hold true for AFRICAN PENISES and the study would not be applicable to American or European penises?

    And for those who believe that no one should have the right to make this decision for themselves just because they are happy with their circumcised state; how selfish. There are many African women who are happy with their genital mutilation and feel that all females should undergo the proceedure (which, by the way is carried out by females). That certainly doesn’t make it right.

    I believe that ANYONE who wishes to be circumcised should have the right but no one should have that decision made for them. It’s a simple issue of my body my choice. I honestly don’t understand why such a position makes so many people pop a vein.

  25. #25 leestein
    on May 9th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Tebow should be ashamed of himself. Circumcision of children is a sick practice that has unfortunately become culturally entrenched in many societies. There is *no*medical benefit attributed to it that cannot be accomplished by other, less radical, means. :mad:

  26. #26 Anthony
    on May 10th, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    I am ashamed of the American media for making Tim Tebow out to be some Christian hero who is helping the world by removing the most sensative part of a man. Oh excuse me, in his case it’s of young boys. Circumcision is wrong no matter how you cut it, no pun intended. Female and male circumcision ARE the same, regardless of what non-believers think. The only difference is the degree. If you don’t understand this then please do some research on it before you comment back. Also I am happy to see that the American Gay community has made an effort to fight for human rights and end the sick ritual called “circumcision” but I am dissapointed in the Straight community for not speaking up. I am a straight man and I think circumcision of non consenting persons is wrong. Why don’t more straight men speak up??? I was cut at birth and I am highly upset about it. The choice was talking from me along with the most sensative part of my body. My mother was lied to when I was born. She asked my pediatrician “why should he be circumcised?” and he replied “the skin is useless, it has no feeling, will only cause he problems and he won’t feel it being removed.” Absolute bullsh*t!!! It seems that straight American men feel that they are “weak” or “soft” if they speak against circumcision. I’ve even heard some say that it make you “gay”, how ignorant. If a man says that he’s upset with his penis then its assumed he must be less of a man. Thats bullsh*t too!!! I guess I’m one of the few straight men that is confident enough in himself, his penis and his sexuality to talk about this. I just hope that eventually more men will grow a pair of balls and start saying NO to circumcision of their boys. Looks and social conformaty are not valid reasons to circumcise. Maybe one day we can finally put an end to this unnessesary cosmetic surgery.

  27. #27 stl49erfan
    on May 11th, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    If I understand the reasoning behind it, it seems like a good idea. I admit that I don’t know if I want an inexperienced guy slicing weenies, but his heart is in the right place.
    Disease is rampant in these countries so if is lessens the disease rate then good for Tim’s father and tim. I just hope he had a VERY steady hand :shock:

  28. #28 Pekemo
    on May 12th, 2008 at 6:26 am

    I agree with st149erfan. The dude’s heart was in the right place, it wasn’t like he was going over there to bring shame and disdain upon people. And I wish everyone would stop trampling all over religion like it’s some universal evil that needs to be expunged in the world. So what if the guys was doing it as part of his dad’s ministry, he was trying to do good, and while yes, it would of been better by far if he was actually trained, but chances are at least everything was clean and sterile so can everyone just get off it already? Jeez

  29. #29 John
    on May 12th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Stl49erfan and Pekemo, Currently in the United States there are many people advocating against rights for gays and lesbians because of their religions and because of the beliefs they hold dear to their hearts. Just because they have their hearts in the right place does not make them right. Just because his heart was in the right place does not justify the forceable surgery on innocent minors.

    Mark, regarding hygiene, the foreskin is designed to prevent bacteria and other diseases from entering into the body. Obviously it is not full-proof (neither is the human immune system in general, for more information read about how the Spanish Influenza killed young people from 1917 until 1919), but it does provide protection as designed by closing the opening of the penis. This is especially true of infants and youngs boys whose foreskins have yet to retract.

  30. #30 Darrell
    on May 12th, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    i love circumcised guys. do i think what tebow did was right or wrong? honestly it doesn’t really matter to me. it’s already been done.

  31. #31 Rikard
    on May 13th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    How did I miss this one for so long? Born 1961, not cut, thankful, but being different than most I researched and have had an interest in the subject. It’s not needed on any medical grounds, except a rare case. Even those are dubious and debated widely among doctors. It is a cash cow for hospitals. It’s a freakish test by religious medical nut jobs in the last century intended to keep boys from masturbating. That a religious “mission” would see it as their duty is bizarre. I can only assume they have taken care of all the needs these people have for vaccines, clean water, sanitation, clothing, food and shelter. What kind of monstrous eugenics program do they have to make everyones dick look “right”? The story Brando tells in Apocalypse Now about vaccinating a villages children and then going back to find the people had hacked off all the vaccinated arms to remove the contamination seems all too appropriate. “The horror, the horror.”

  32. #32 Wanderer
    on May 15th, 2008 at 6:30 pm

    The argument about preventing disease has always struck me as more rationalization than the honest reason. The reason for this mutilation is clearly cultural and as such it should be voluntary, meaning that it should never be performed on a minor.

    For the record, I was born in the US in ‘59, am cut, and would like to see the doctor who did the job have an equivalent amount removed from his penis for each and every boy that he circumcized… Yeah, I can be a vindictive s.o.b. at times.

    Regarding Tebow’s heart “being in the right place”, I would call to mind the phrase: “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”

  33. #33 FL Guy
    on May 16th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    I don’t have a problem with him touring around and supporting the procedures. My area of concern is how was he trained to perform a circumcision and why would he want to.

  34. #34 studd
    on May 17th, 2008 at 3:49 am

    Man, the QB and coach Meyer are both running some freaky right-wing christian circus over in Gatorville. Worse of all the program does’t seem to be any better for it.

  35. #35 Hako
    on May 19th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    The debate will rage over whether circumcision helps prevent disease. But are these diseases, mainly sexual, a problem in childhood or adulthood? I say leave
    the foreskin alone, explain the pro and cons to boys as they enter puberty, and let them decide. I am very much an advocate of “body rights”. No one has the right to enter our most person space and make permanent changes and alterations without our consent….unless absolutely necessary for medical reasons.

  36. #36 Andy Cordero
    on Sep 7th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    This guy, who was too ashamed to be on the Playboy All-American Team, is proud of genitally mutilating these innocent babies :?: :!: And then is so atrociously arrogant that he parades his physical, emotional & sexual abuse before his college booster club (along w/his ignorant coach), all presumably in the name of God :?: :!: {see http://loserswithsocks.com/2008/05/05/tebow-homemade-circumcision/} All this does is add the layers of spiritual & cultural abuse to these heinous acts of cowardice!!! SHAME ON YOU, TIM!!! :oops: & URBAN!!! :oops:

  37. #37 fintax
    on Dec 10th, 2008 at 3:03 am

    I knew that guy was cut, wholesome my ass, he’s just neutered like all the other white boys in the USA

  38. #38 Hope
    on Jan 6th, 2009 at 9:28 am

    eh, just from appearance…cut looks better flacid then uncut.

  39. #39 Bobbi
    on Jan 8th, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Um, Hope, from EXPERIENCE (and lots of it), uncut feels and works MUCH better. It works the way a penis is supposed to work. No need for extra lubrication.

    And really–should we cut off the labia of baby girls. I think that is a better analogy than the clitoral hood. The labia (both inner and outer) protects both the vaginal and urethral entrance…it also has all kinds of nerve endings.
    Unlike the labia though–the foreskin is adhered to the glands. Did you know that they cut/peel the foreskin away from the glands before cutting? It’s like pulling a fingernail away from the finger. I’m glad that they now use pain meds for the poor boys, but it wears off and they don’t give more. It is INSANITY that this is still done.
    I chose not to circ my little boy. His body was made perfectly–and I refuse to change perfection to fit some crazy societal norm.

  40. #40 Bo Johnson
    on Jan 14th, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    I believe circumcision is wrong but it should be up to an adult man to decide for himself. As a gay man, I would surrender to Tim Tebow anytime though.

  41. #41 Dan
    on Jun 18th, 2009 at 12:43 am

    If I read the article correctly, Tebow did not do the circumcision but only helped(cut the thread for the medic, etc.). Why are people questioning his lack of training for operating when he actually didn”t do any cutting.

  42. #42 DruggyBear
    on Jun 18th, 2009 at 2:53 am

    uncut cocks are ugly and unhygienic, it should be mandatory!

  43. #43 Naterator
    on Sep 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    I think the amount of foreskin fetishism here masquerading as genuine concern is equally hilarious and disturbing. Implying that male circumcision is at all like female circumcision is hyperbole at best. If sex with a uncircumcised penis is so much better than a circumcised one, I’m glad I’m cut or I’d be dead of a heart attack by now. :mrgreen:

  44. #44 carl
    on Sep 29th, 2009 at 6:18 am

    dan wrote “If I read the article correctly,Tebow did not do the circumcision but only helped(cut the thread for the medic, etc.)”

    dan you did NOT read it correctly it read ““The first time, it was nerve-racking,” he said. “Hands were shaking a little bit. I mean, I’m cutting somebody”

    :idea: learn to read :idea: .

  45. #45 jon lane
    on Oct 17th, 2009 at 10:50 am

    i’m foreskin free and glad i am.tim tebo is doing a great service th the boys. jesus was circumcised. god gave us a great clean gift.so just be proud that tim is willing to circumcise.

  46. #46 Finneye
    on Oct 17th, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    I’m glad I was born European…
    …and I have never heard anyone telling me with a straight face that I ought to be circumcised just because Jesus was… I’m also hoping that his circumcision was performed by somebody who new what he was doing.

  47. #47 Denny
    on Jan 16th, 2010 at 9:24 pm

    I’m cut and I hate it. I feel it should be outlawed. The foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis and cutting it off is a disgrace. Most of my buds are uncut and always tell me how great the sex is. I have always envied all the guys that still have a foreskin. I’d do anything to have mine back. Also a penis with a foreskin looks alot better, it’s the way it’s suppossed to look. Natural and masculine. Also they feel better while in your hand or mouth, more to play with, more to enjoy!

  48. #48 Kristen
    on Jan 27th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    This is absolutely disgusting. Regardless of how you feel about routine infant circumcision (I personally feel that it is wrong, and if you want to reduce spread of disease teach people to use condoms, please) but the fact that an untrained person was doing minor surgery like this is disgusting. This is obviously an example of classism and/or racism if this mission feels that the people they are “serving” are not worthy of receiving the care of trained medical people.

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