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		<title>By: Destiny Rules</title>
		<link>http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/2008/06/17/tiger-woods-from-hero-to-legend/comment-page-1/#comment-2260</link>
		<dc:creator>Destiny Rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really tired of using &quot;hero&quot; in the context of &quot;sports hero.&quot; Heroes rush into burning buildings and rescue children. Heroes overpower terrorists plotting to crash a plane into the Capitol.

I don&#039;t have trouble calling Tiger a sports legend. Yes, this win cements it. I don&#039;t have problems with calling him one of -- if not THE -- best golfers ever. But let&#039;s reserve &quot;hero&quot; for the people who really earned it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really tired of using &#8220;hero&#8221; in the context of &#8220;sports hero.&#8221; Heroes rush into burning buildings and rescue children. Heroes overpower terrorists plotting to crash a plane into the Capitol.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have trouble calling Tiger a sports legend. Yes, this win cements it. I don&#8217;t have problems with calling him one of &#8212; if not THE &#8212; best golfers ever. But let&#8217;s reserve &#8220;hero&#8221; for the people who really earned it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cesar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cesar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously.  This guy, arguably the greatest golfer ever, felt it necessary to take a chance on ending his career to play in this tournament.  Doctors told him not to play.  He limped noticeably all week.  He grimaced on nearly every swing of the club (and the TV folks dutifully showed each one several times just to make sure we understood how tough he is).  And he won.  Great.
It makes him look selfish and foolhardy, not heroic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously.  This guy, arguably the greatest golfer ever, felt it necessary to take a chance on ending his career to play in this tournament.  Doctors told him not to play.  He limped noticeably all week.  He grimaced on nearly every swing of the club (and the TV folks dutifully showed each one several times just to make sure we understood how tough he is).  And he won.  Great.<br />
It makes him look selfish and foolhardy, not heroic.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Cyd for this article.  I knew EXACTLY what you meant but everything must be overanalyzed by some, particularly those who feel as though a pin is being stuck in them each time they have to acknowledge Tiger&#039;s greatness.  

As for him not doing anything with his celebrity to &quot;do good&#039;.  I guess that little thing called the Tiger Woods Foundation which funds communities and organizations that nurture family values and encourage adult involvement in children’s lives.  In additio, the foundation&#039;s clinics give thousands of young people golf lessons and also draw attention and support to the organizations that allow inner-city children access to golf.  Ya know I&#039;m not even saying that people have to kiss the guy&#039;s ass.  Like any athlete, he&#039;s going to have adoring fans and those who just don&#039;t think he&#039;s all that or wished he wouldn&#039;t throw his clubs or curse or some other reason.  But please..before talking out of the side of your mouth that the guy doesn&#039;t do anything &quot;good&quot; with his celebrity...at least check your facts first.  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cyd for this article.  I knew EXACTLY what you meant but everything must be overanalyzed by some, particularly those who feel as though a pin is being stuck in them each time they have to acknowledge Tiger&#8217;s greatness.  </p>
<p>As for him not doing anything with his celebrity to &#8220;do good&#8217;.  I guess that little thing called the Tiger Woods Foundation which funds communities and organizations that nurture family values and encourage adult involvement in children’s lives.  In additio, the foundation&#8217;s clinics give thousands of young people golf lessons and also draw attention and support to the organizations that allow inner-city children access to golf.  Ya know I&#8217;m not even saying that people have to kiss the guy&#8217;s ass.  Like any athlete, he&#8217;s going to have adoring fans and those who just don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s all that or wished he wouldn&#8217;t throw his clubs or curse or some other reason.  But please..before talking out of the side of your mouth that the guy doesn&#8217;t do anything &#8220;good&#8221; with his celebrity&#8230;at least check your facts first.  <img src='http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prior to today&#039;s press release about the torn ACL, the only injury news we were given about Tiger indicated that he was recovering from routine Arthriscopic knee surgery on April 15th.  

What coverage does a professional basketball player, hockey player or football player receive when they return two months after being scoped?  Usually pretty minor and routine stuff, No?

Let&#039;s at least agree that they aren&#039;t treated as if they&#039;re walking on water like the media did with Tiger this past week.

So, yes, prior to today&#039;s news about the ACL, all the previous media coverage was hype with a capital H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prior to today&#8217;s press release about the torn ACL, the only injury news we were given about Tiger indicated that he was recovering from routine Arthriscopic knee surgery on April 15th.  </p>
<p>What coverage does a professional basketball player, hockey player or football player receive when they return two months after being scoped?  Usually pretty minor and routine stuff, No?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s at least agree that they aren&#8217;t treated as if they&#8217;re walking on water like the media did with Tiger this past week.</p>
<p>So, yes, prior to today&#8217;s news about the ACL, all the previous media coverage was hype with a capital H.</p>
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		<title>By: George Twinsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Twinsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does it say about the rest of the golfers that a guy (granted probably the greatest golfer of all time) with a torn ACL, coming off surgery that prevented him from playing a full 18 holes of golf, can go out and play 91 holes of golf over the course of 5 days and win what is arguably the world&#039;s toughest golf tournament?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it say about the rest of the golfers that a guy (granted probably the greatest golfer of all time) with a torn ACL, coming off surgery that prevented him from playing a full 18 holes of golf, can go out and play 91 holes of golf over the course of 5 days and win what is arguably the world&#8217;s toughest golf tournament?</p>
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		<title>By: Cyd Zeigler jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyd Zeigler jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, big deal. He just tore his ACL and now needs reconstructive surgery and ended his golf season.

http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/article/0,28136,1815681,00.html

Yeah, the media really overhyped that angle of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, big deal. He just tore his ACL and now needs reconstructive surgery and ended his golf season.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/article/0,28136,1815681,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/article/0,28136,1815681,00.html</a></p>
<p>Yeah, the media really overhyped that angle of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiger obviously is the greatest golfer of his generation.  He handles himself with a lot of class and I can find no fault with him at all.  But please, enough already with the media hype on the &quot;injury comeback&quot; aspect to this story.

From everything we heard on Sunday and Monday all he had to do was take an over-the-counter pain killer to make it comfortable for him to play.  This wasn&#039;t Willis Reed hobbling onto the court for game 7 against the Lakers in the 1970 finals.  Nor was it Kirk Gibson&#039;s world series pinch hit home run when he could barely jog around the bases.

Golf is a &quot;skill competition&quot; - not an athletic event.  The proof of that is that a 45 year old man can come within one stroke of winning one of golf&#039;s biggest championships.  It is impossible in a true athletic event or sport for a 45 year old to compete evenly with a great athlete in his or her 20s or 30s.  So the injury comeback hype in this case is just that - Hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiger obviously is the greatest golfer of his generation.  He handles himself with a lot of class and I can find no fault with him at all.  But please, enough already with the media hype on the &#8220;injury comeback&#8221; aspect to this story.</p>
<p>From everything we heard on Sunday and Monday all he had to do was take an over-the-counter pain killer to make it comfortable for him to play.  This wasn&#8217;t Willis Reed hobbling onto the court for game 7 against the Lakers in the 1970 finals.  Nor was it Kirk Gibson&#8217;s world series pinch hit home run when he could barely jog around the bases.</p>
<p>Golf is a &#8220;skill competition&#8221; &#8211; not an athletic event.  The proof of that is that a 45 year old man can come within one stroke of winning one of golf&#8217;s biggest championships.  It is impossible in a true athletic event or sport for a 45 year old to compete evenly with a great athlete in his or her 20s or 30s.  So the injury comeback hype in this case is just that &#8211; Hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyd Zeigler jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyd Zeigler jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant sports hero. What he&#039;s done, in the context of sports, has been heroic. No, he hasn&#039;t cured AIDS or ended poverty. That&#039;s clearly not what I meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant sports hero. What he&#8217;s done, in the context of sports, has been heroic. No, he hasn&#8217;t cured AIDS or ended poverty. That&#8217;s clearly not what I meant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Buzinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Buzinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best golfer ever? Likely. A sports legend? Probably in that context. A hero? Hardly. 

What &quot;heroic&quot; thing has Tiger ever done other than sink impossible putts? I don&#039;t seem to recall him taking any stand on important issues or using his immense celebrity to do good. This is not to single him out since a lot of athletes are simply interested in performing and making as much $ as they can, but this hardly makes him heroic or worthy of our worship. I&#039;ll take a Joey Cheek (http://teamdarfur.org/) any day of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best golfer ever? Likely. A sports legend? Probably in that context. A hero? Hardly. </p>
<p>What &#8220;heroic&#8221; thing has Tiger ever done other than sink impossible putts? I don&#8217;t seem to recall him taking any stand on important issues or using his immense celebrity to do good. This is not to single him out since a lot of athletes are simply interested in performing and making as much $ as they can, but this hardly makes him heroic or worthy of our worship. I&#8217;ll take a Joey Cheek (<a href="http://teamdarfur.org/" rel="nofollow">http://teamdarfur.org/</a>) any day of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: golfer</title>
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		<dc:creator>golfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for a little history...

Ben Hogan won the 1950 U.S. Open at Merion less a year removed from nearly dying in an [url=http://www.usga.org/news/images/news/hogan.jpg]automobile accident[/url].  After barely making it around the course (and before painkillers), he needed a par on the 72nd hole to make it into the playoff.  Back then, they played 36 holes on the final day of regulation.  [url=http://www.monroegallery.com/showcase/images/life_BenHogan.jpg]He hit an iconic 1-iron on the green[/url] and two-putted to secure his spot.  He then won the 18-hole playoff the next day against two competitors, including a former U.S. Open champion.

This doesn&#039;t away from what Tiger did--to me, this was his most memorable professional victory to date, after the 1997 Masters and 2000 U.S. Open.  But let&#039;s not get carried away here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for a little history&#8230;</p>
<p>Ben Hogan won the 1950 U.S. Open at Merion less a year removed from nearly dying in an [url=http://www.usga.org/news/images/news/hogan.jpg]automobile accident[/url].  After barely making it around the course (and before painkillers), he needed a par on the 72nd hole to make it into the playoff.  Back then, they played 36 holes on the final day of regulation.  [url=http://www.monroegallery.com/showcase/images/life_BenHogan.jpg]He hit an iconic 1-iron on the green[/url] and two-putted to secure his spot.  He then won the 18-hole playoff the next day against two competitors, including a former U.S. Open champion.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t away from what Tiger did&#8211;to me, this was his most memorable professional victory to date, after the 1997 Masters and 2000 U.S. Open.  But let&#8217;s not get carried away here.</p>
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