San Diego Charger Jacques Cesaire (left) was a featured highlight yesterday at an anti-gay-marriage rally sponsored by iprotectmarriage.com, we have learned from Good As You blog. They have an audio recording of the event in which Cesaire and NFL free agent Akbar Gbaja-Biamila (right), brother of Packer Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (KGB), encourage everyone in attendance to oppose same-sex marriage and vote Yes on Prop 8.
A couple takes of the spot were played during the event. The first spot:
Cesaire: Hi, I’m Jacques Cesaire, a professional football player, and I support Biblical marriage between a man and a woman.
Gbaja-Biamila: This election, vote Yes on Prop 8
And the second spot:
Gbaja-Biamila: Hi, I’m Akbar Gbaja-Biamila, and I support a Biblical marriage between a man and a woman.
Cesaire: And I’m Jacques Cesaire, a professional football player. This election, let’s stand up for what we believe in.
Gbaja-Biamila: Yes on 8
After they speak, there is a presentation labeling Prop 8 as a “battle between light and darkness.”
What’s interesting is that Cesaire doesn’t mention the San Diego Chargers or the NFL, but only that he is a pro football player. Unfortunately, I can’t find the video to see if they tagged Cesaire as being a member of the Chargers.
According to the group’s Web site, other sports figures appearing included skate pros Brian Sumner and Christian Hosoi, and Kyle Loza, a pro freestyle motocross rider and X Games gold medallist.
on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Last polling news. A “no” vote equals pro-gay marriage:
According to a Field Poll released Sept. 18, 38% of likely voters backed the initiative, while 55% opposed it.
Historically in Calif., a ballot initiative trailing before election day seldom wins, but this issue is so volatile that nothing is guaranteed.
Also, Google (which seldom takes public political stands) has come out strongly against Prop. 8.
on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
No one is trying to ruin these guys’ dreams for a Biblical wedding. What is it that they think they need to stand up for - a chance to legislate other people’s lives? The Bible-thumbing NFL-ers continue to be one of the more transparent examples of organized religion at its worst.
on Oct 2nd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Why can’t these religious fuckwads just shut the fuck up? I want one of these idiots to come up with an arguement against gay marriage that doesn’t involve the fucking Bible. Guess what you morons…we don’t all believe in the same god…some of us (heteros included) don’t believe in any god at all. Should they not be allowed to marry? Should there be no marriages at city halls by justices of the peace?
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 12:06 am
Biblical marriage? So…. how many wives do they think a man should have?
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 1:28 am
Wow, Christian Hosoi, who just got out of state prison for numerous felonies, and Jacques Cesaire, an overpaid football player who’d be driving a taxi were it not for his ability to bash opposing players around. Yep, they’ve convinced me to vote for Prop. 8,
What a crock!
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 5:53 am
Hey Jacque and Akbar - I don’t tell you how to play football…so don’t tell me how to vote. In other words, STFU!
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
This is what happens when we all gave Reggie White his free pass for bigotry. If I were in San Diego I’d be making a stink about this now.
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Somebody please sit these men down and read to them the 10 commandments which are GODS LAWS and ask them to point out where it says that Man should not marry fellow man. Where in the 10 commandments does it say that a Man should not Love another Man.. Then read to them the Bible and ask them to stop you when you reach something that states Man can not marry another man.. or better yet, stop you when, you reach a part that contradicts the 10 commandments.. ask which is the more important .. GODS LAW or the “Teachings of Jesus” which were written tens and hundreds of years after the death of Jesus.. are they trying to make Jesus more important that GOD?
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
hi to all:
i support gay marrage as i am married to my gay gay partner.
we meet over the internet and took it from there.
i was married to a lovely female person but sadly wife passed away.
i was so determed to find the right guy to spend the rest off our lives together.
my family nieces and nephews acepted us good, my partner as son and daughter and there truly acept us both.
dont be put off with friends and family, as it is your choice who you are.
would like to know your opion on this subject.
time for usa to reform there opion on gay subject.
all the best to you all.
derek.
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
You can bet your life that all these biblical NFL bible-thumpers use the KJV bible (the James1 of England version). So who is going to be brave enough to tell them that said King James was a noted gay monarch who flaunted his lover, the Duke of Buckingham, during public appearances?
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 4:38 pm
just the fact that you guys get all worked up over this is amazing. different people have different values thoughts and principles, and you dont have to agree with them. is it different that they are pro ball players? i think most players probably share this view but not publicly. do ya get all worked up over everything you disagree with , or just gay issues? im gay, black, and understand about struggle and all that, we do live in america however and the right to express is what we live on. and for the record, im glad the amendment looks like it’ll pass, but im not really sure about the whole marriage thing either. its very debatable. so am i a cast off now as well? any more out there like me? im sure there are. good day gents.
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Where is tolerance? How many gays have stood up to oppose straight marriage? Why should any person have to live by other peoples standard? These are the people who have wrought so much misery on humanity around the world with their messages of intolerance, hatred, my way or the high way attitude. I call on all people who are tolerant understanding and supporters of human rights to boycott the NFL completely.
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 5:02 pm
well Mike why are you glad the amendment will pass?
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pm
I don’t understand why it concerns them or anyone if they are not gay. No one is asking them to attend or have anything to do with it or even accept it in their personal lives… and if their churches don’t want to marry gays thats ok too, somebodies church will….its an equal rights concern for consenting gay adults I don’t think the christian bible condonned divorce but its rampant and it will probably do more to destroy biblical marriage than any gay marriage will
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm
How about a commercial about keeping the Sabbath holy, hypocrites?
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 6:30 pm
But Cyd, you should mention that you are an ardent McCain-Palin supporter and are contributing to the anti-same sex marriage sentiment by supporting them and their party.
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Waaaaaaaaaa! A couple of brainless, uneducated gorillas (who probably use meth and watch girl on girl videos every other night before bed) getting holier than thou all of a sudden? Mwahahahaha. Someone please bitch-slap these retards and throw them off a cliff for me.
Survey after survey has shown the higher the educational level, the more supportive they are of gay marriage. Clearly the dumber you are, the more anti-gay you’ll likely be.
ROTFLMAO.
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Mike, as long as a I, as a Roman Catholic, am forced to accept the immoral lifestyle choices of people like these two football players (I am going to guess they are both Protestants - otherwise known as immoral heretics to Catholics), not to mention adulterers like John McCain (according to any Christian Bible, Cindy is his mistress/concubine, NOT his wife), they should have to put up with mine. It’s not about having different views, it’s about demanding that your religion be followed by everyone. When Catholic hospitals can refuse to treat Protestants, then these schmucks can force their religion on the rest of us.
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Ceasire reminds me of some many other Homophobes. With his looks he has nothing to worry about. One thing about this game is you first have to have somebody desire you. Without that piece of the puzzle in place, you can’t even get to ist down or first plate.
Sterling
on Oct 3rd, 2008 at 10:52 pm
This protest movement is going have a reverse effect. It will finally crack that glass ceiling so that some NFL and NBA players will finally “come out” and be their true selves. There should be some real surprises. Bet on it.
Sterling
on Oct 4th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Please spread the word and tell people to VOTE NO on Prop 8 in California, VOTE NOTE on Prop 2 in Florida, and VOTE NO on Prop 102 in Arizona. This is serious. It’s not a tv show. Go online write messages telling people to vote NO. Or donate.
California, Vote NO on Proposition 8
Equality for All http://tinyurl.com/6ddtf5
Equality California http://tinyurl.com/5dydop
Arizona, Vote NO on Proposition 102
Vote NO on Prop 102 http://www.votenoprop102.com/
Florida, Vote NO on Proposition 2
Say NO 2 http://tinyurl.com/4mdsjj
on Oct 4th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
mike: as a black gay man myself, I have to say there are a lot of people like you out there. SADLY. And yes, we would happily cast you off and UNDER the bus at the first available opportunity.
And hypocrites these guys are. They’re like those weed smokin’ and fornicatin’ Jamaican murder music guys singing about burning gays. It’s in “Da bible” they say. Gimme a break. I can’t take any more hypocrites. Can them on there BS!! Shove their bible right back down their throat …..
How many times you fornicated this week? How many out of wedlock kids you got? I could go on and on ………
on Oct 5th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
I am getting sick and damned tired of some of these professional athletes allowing themselves to be brainwashed into supporting horrible initiatives like proposition 8 in California. These NFL players are the worlds biggest hypocrites. They play in one of the most homoerotic sports but then after all the ball throwing, tackling, and ass spanking they all of a sudden are right wing conservative christians. These two NFL stars should be harshly punished by both the San Diego Chargers and the NFL for publicly coming out and supporting this un-American, anti-gay initiative and forcing it down the throats of California voters. They should both be suspended without pay for the rest of the season. Who the hell are these two overpaid, pampered football players to tell everyone else how they should vote and live. Both these NFL players need to keep their mouths shut and get out on the field and play football.
on Oct 5th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
If you want some humor on this issue, check out the SNL skit on the VP debate (http://www.hulu.com/watch/37730/saturday-night-live-vp-debate-open-palin–biden). At 8 minutes in, Tina Fey gives Gov. Palin’s position on marriage — a fun video.
And yes, make sure you tell everyone you know in CA to vote no on Prop 8 - It will win if we don’t ask people to vote against it.
on Oct 8th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Taylor, you have anger issues and should deal with them. Based on the way i was raised you moron, i am fine with other gays getting married, its not for me, and im not sure why you wanna through me under a bus. thats the problem with a lot of gay men and women, you dont agree with “the agenda” and you get thrown under a bus. Taylor grow the hell up. understand differences of opinion. and dont get you extentions in a tizzy.
on Oct 21st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Biblical marriage?? Check with them in a few years and read about their divorces. What a crock!
on Oct 21st, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Once again, now that I read the comments of others, especially Robert Preshop’s,He makes the best comments. Yes!
on Oct 22nd, 2008 at 6:58 pm
For as long as I live, I won’t understand the “selective” use of statements in the bible. Someone should tell these two players that the bible also says that anyone who works on Sunday shall be struck dead…so they better get out of the league quick.
I respect anyone’s religion and faith. But I’ll never understand how bible thumpers can say “this applies, but this doesn’t” when they want to criticize and limit the rights of others.
on Oct 23rd, 2008 at 1:12 am
doesnt everyone have a right to express their opinion why is it so wrong to be against gay marriage why is it so wrong to believe different it is each person right to choose if they want to be gay or straight u talk about christians forcing there way on people what about gay people trying to get the world to accept that being gay is normal i don t care if they make gay marriage legal in every state i will still speak out against it and i dont even have to quote one bible verse i never have to mention god or jesus or buddah it is my right as i citizen as a human being to speak out against gay rights gay marriage it is strange and perverse i have gay friends i respect their right to be whom ever they choose but being gay in my opinion is weird and strange and i say yes to prop 8
on Oct 23rd, 2008 at 9:42 am
You have gay friends and respect their right to be who they are (or, in your word, “choose” to be) but you think being gay is weird and strange? Those are some mighty lucky friends you have.
And as for it being a choice, did you choose to be an ignorant moron? No. You can’t help it anymore than your so-called (imaginary) friends.
on Oct 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 pm
People do many things that are unhealthy. Although we allow people to do those things in the United States as a matter of freedom, we tend to discourage them from doing so - except regarding homosexuality. It is ironic that our public school system encourages students to become involved in homosexuality. In order to be consistent, I think it is time we encourage our children to start smoking and drinking as well. After all, it is just an alternate lifestyle!
on Oct 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 pm
1. The first casualty of the acceptance of gay marriage would be the very definition of marriage itself
For thousands of years and in every Western society marriage has meant the life-long union of a man and a woman. Such a statement about marriage is what philosophers call an analytic proposition. The concept of marriage necessarily includes the idea of a man and woman committing themselves to each other. Any other arrangement contradicts the basic definition. Advocates of gay marriage recognize this contradiction by proposing “gay unions” instead, but this distinction is, we believe, a strategic one. The ultimate goal for them is the societal acceptance of gay marriage.
Scrambling the definition of marriage will be a shock to our fundamental understanding of human social relations and institutions. One effect will be that sexual fidelity will be detached from the commitment of marriage. The advocates of gay marriage themselves admit as much. “Among gay male relationships, the openness of the contract makes it more likely to survive than many heterosexual bonds,” Andrew Sullivan, the most eloquent proponent of gay marriage, wrote in his 1996 book, Virtually Normal. “There is more likely to be a greater understanding of the need for extramarital outlets between two men than between a man and a woman. … Something of the gay relationship’s necessary honesty, its flexibility, and its equality could undoubtedly help strengthen and inform many heterosexual bonds.”
The former moderator of the Metropolitan Community Church, a largely homosexual denomination, made the same point. “Monogamy is not a word the gay community uses,” Troy Perry told The Dallas Morning News. “We talk about fidelity. That means you live in a loving, caring, honest relationship with your partner. Because we can’t marry, we have people with widely varying opinions as to what that means. Some would say that committed couples could have multiple sexual partners as long as there’s no deception.”
A recent study from the Netherlands, where gay marriage is legal, suggests that the moderator is correct. Researchers found that even among stable homosexual partnerships, men have an average of eight partners per year outside their “monogamous” relationship.
In short, gay marriage will change marriage more than it will change gays.
Further, if we scramble our definition of marriage, it will soon embrace relationships that will involve more than two persons. Prominent advocates hope to use gay marriage as a wedge to abolish governmental support for traditional marriage altogether. Law Professor Martha Ertman of the University of Utah, for example, wants to render the distinction between traditional marriage and “polyamory” (group marriage) “morally neutral.” She argues that greater openness to gay partnerships will help us establish this moral neutrality (Her main article on this topic, in the Winter 2001 Harvard Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Law Review, is not available online, but she made a similar case in the Spring/Summer 2001 Duke Journal Of Gender Law & Policy). University of Michigan law professor David Chambers wrote in a widely cited 1996 Michigan Law Review piece that he expects gay marriage will lead government to be “more receptive to [marital] units of three or more” (1996 Michigan Law Review).
2. Gay marriage would be bad for children
According to a recent article in Child Trends, “Research clearly demonstrates that family structure matters for children, and the family structure that helps the most is a family headed by two biological parents in a low-conflict marriage.” While gay marriage would encourage adoption of children by homosexual couples, which may be preferable to foster care, some lesbian couples want to have children through anonymous sperm donations, which means some children will be created purposely without knowledge of one of their biological parents. Research has also shown that children raised by homosexuals were more dissatisfied with their own gender, suffer a greater rate of molestation within the family, and have homosexual experiences more often.
Gay marriage will also encourage teens who are unsure of their sexuality to embrace a lifestyle that suffers high rates of suicide, depression, HIV, drug abuse, STDs, and other pathogens. This is particularly alarming because, according to a 1991 scientific survey among 12-year-old boys, more than 25 percent feel uncertain about their sexual orientations. We have already seen that lesbianism is “chic” in certain elite social sectors.
Finally, acceptance of gay marriage will strengthen the notion that marriage is primarily about adult yearnings for intimacy and is not essentially connected to raising children. Children will be hurt by those who will too easily bail out of a marriage because it is not “fulfilling” to them.
3. Gay marriage would be bad for society
The effects we have described above will have strong repercussions on a society that is already having trouble maintaining wholesome stability in marriage and family life. If marriage and families are the foundation for a healthy society, introducing more uncertainty and instability in them will be bad for society.
In addition, we believe that gay marriage can only be imposed by activist judges, not by the democratic will of the people. The vast majority of people define marriage as the life-long union of a man and a woman. They will strongly resist redefinition. Like the 1973 judicial activism regarding abortion, the imposition of gay marriage would bring contempt for the law and our courts in the eyes of many Americans. It would exacerbate social conflict and division in our nation, a division that is already bitter and possibly dangerous.
In summary, we believe that the introduction of gay marriage will seriously harm Americans—including those in heterosexual marriages—over the long run. Strong political measures may be necessary to maintain the traditional definition of marriage, possibly even a constitutional amendment.
Some legal entitlements sought by gays and lesbians might be addressed by recognizing non-sexually defined domestic partnerships. But as for marriage, let us keep the definition as it is, and strengthen our capacity to live up to its ideals.
on Oct 24th, 2008 at 12:00 am
No person—whether male or female, heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual—has the “right” to redefine marriage at will. Marriage is not just a private contract between two persons based on affectional preference, but a social institution and social good in which society as a whole has compelling interests. A person has an individual right to a jury trial for serious crimes, but not the right to insist on redefining the jury system or rules of evidence, because the jury system is a social good, part of the shared, public social capital, built up over the course of centuries, which any society only tampers with to its own peril. A general in the United States Army has individual rights under American law and the Uniform Code of Military Justice, but not the right to overturn the principle of the civilian control of the military, which is an essential element of the shared social capital of this nation; it is a public and not a private good. Society has a compelling interest in maintaining the historic understanding of marriage as a binding relationship between one man and one woman; changing this definition would harm society in specific ways
on Oct 27th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
wow all you people are insane. i hope you all have kids that grow up into homosexuals and then you guys can see what you do to them in their lives! how would you like to go on a date with your man and your son and his boyfriend? a little weird huh! so you dont believe in god? thats one major issue you need to fix because thats why you walk this earth and you all will burn in hell if you don’t get your shit straight. but i’m sorry i dont want a fagot or a lesbien for a daughter so i hope you can all keep your little dicks in your pants and find some pussys to fuck instead of ass holes you sick bastards! i sure hope god can fix your sick ass mind!
on Oct 30th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
well…
i think that yes, everybody has a right to speak their mind,duh. but that does not mean i agree with them. PERSONALLY, i think that gay marriage is RIGHT and to not allow homosexuals to marry is unconstitutional.
i have to do a reserch paper OPPOSING gay rights [ridiculous, right?] so ive been trying to find some articles opposing gay rights. all the arguments against gay rights have to either be about the bible or something else that cant be considered completely valid.
that is what upsets me! if you want to oppose gay rights, them give me a valid argument! that is all i ask.
on Oct 30th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
and also…just because people dont believe the same things as you, does not mean theyre like, going to burn in hell and theyre demonic and evil…
on Nov 7th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Americans have a heavy Karma against their injustice and hipocrisy aginsts gays, They have now somewhat overcome the problem of racism instead they have now fully directed that hatred towards minorities, like gays and the indian americans.
on Jan 11th, 2009 at 1:10 am
GO THEM FUCK FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on Jan 11th, 2009 at 1:16 am
Wow. “Kyle” up at 1:00 AM googling a gay sports site. Someone is dealing with some inner demons.