Comments on: Survivor’s Spencer doesn’t want to be Thpenther

By: jami

jami — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:10:35 +0000

Spencer was def one of my favorites on this season and im sad to see him go:( when it comes to the whole stereotypical gay thing im also happy that there was a gay man that wasn’t so clearly gay because there are guys out there like that but you usually dont see that side but I also love charlie and im not sure how much i believe spencer’s “comments”

By: Dennis- PVDRower

Dennis- PVDRower — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:25:06 +0000

Hey, MCE. Since when do GAY athletes get “too much bonus points” in this life?? What planet are you on? If you want to be a ballerina, be my guest. But don’t go slammin’ athletes. We’re not trying to impress anyone. We don’t have an agenda like you do. We’re just doing what we do best – whether its competing in a regatta or playing in a softball league. Get over your it, dude.

By: Joe Guckin

Joe Guckin — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:37:42 +0000

Then Spencer and everyone else should be attacking the MEDIA for doing a lousy job.

By: Bradley

Bradley — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:18:17 +0000

Alright – I think I fall on both sides of the fence. There are effeminant gay guys and then there are gay guys who ‘act’ effeminant. Hell, I go down that path every once in awhile when I’m around a gaggle of gays. I think what he’s going towards here is that the media FOCUSES on the effeminancy of gay men and rarely show, or focus on, non-effeminant gay men. It’s kind of like Pride parades, you always see the drag queens on the news.

By: Dave (friend of Cyd and Jim and Outsports)

Dave (friend of Cyd and Jim and Outsports) — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:47:36 +0000

Wow. Fascinating discussion. But I have to be 100 percent on the side of Cyd here. This kid is obviously extremely immature. His comments are offensive. Reading these comments to the blog posting really opens my eyes to the issues that divide our community. We are way to hung up on stereotypes and how gay men will be perceived in society by straight men based on who’s on TV and how they act or who’s on the news and how they act. Frankly, who cares what straight people think anymore. My question, do you like yourself the way you are? If you do then you are way ahead of the game. It will open your mind to acceptance of all kinds of gay guys, whether effeminate, in the middle, butch, whatever. Straight acting or effeminate, I like all kinds of fellow gays. Diversity is what makes our community close knit, fun, unique and a thrill to be a part of. Why we insist on dissing certain of our brethren is beyond me. All I would say to Spencer is, hey look at your quotes, do you want to rethink them. Is that really what you believe. If so, how can we help you transition to being more opened minded. And then leave it at that.

By: DJ - Jim's Friend

DJ - Jim's Friend — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:33:15 +0000

There really wasn’t a need to flood the board up, MCE.

By: MCE

MCE — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:44:14 +0000

As an athlete AND a former rower I wish Spencer was there when I was younger. I would have come out sooner. Cyd, stop with the lame affront already…

So, you, as an athlete and former rower, are somehow superior to the guy who becomes a ballet dancer, or a fashion designer, or a scientist, or a dentist, or an electrician…sorry, you don’t get any extra credits in my book…athletes have gotten way too much bonus points in this life, and, as it turns out, many times they set a bad example…so don’t try to impress anyone with who you have been.

By: MCE

MCE — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:39:09 +0000

What he *is*, is an openly gay guy on a national TV show who isn’t a flouncing queen or a fashionista, the only two kinds of gay men reality shows tend to show us (for the most part). I’m inclined to cut him a bit of slack. He has lots of time to mature and learn.

Sorry, no slack allowed.
If gay men can’t even treat each other with respect, regardless of whether we find someone’s mannerisms appealing or repellent, then how do you expect anyone else to accept you?
I don’t get this whole desire to “fit in”…who are you trying to fit in with? Boring heterosexual couples? Dull suburbanites? Monotonous, bland, dull, uninteresting men?

By: MCE

MCE — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:34:00 +0000

Is there some reason he can’t be as manly as he wants without insulting those who don’t meet his high standards of masculinity? It was the drag queens and other effeminate MEN who fought back at Stonewall, after all. Their actions proved their manhood much better than someone going on a stupid reality TV show for their 15 minutes of infamy.

Joe, you are so right…there is no reason to insult those who took the beatings, took the catcalls from the cops back in ’69. and stood up and showed what it REALLY means to be tough…there were guys like some of you here back then who didn’t want to get involved, who didn’t want to be associated with all those queens taking a stand…I guess you didn’t see MILK, obviously…Harvey was not butch, but he did more to help the gay community than a lot of so-called “butch” men who refused to do anything except belittle effeminate guys and hide in the closet.

By: MCE

MCE — Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:27:14 +0000

I dont consider lisping or “limp wrists” as natural. It is a learned behavior. Same with lesbians who act like men…both things seem to defeat the purpose, if you are a lesbian you obviously enjoy femininity, why act masculine? Too much of it seems forced.

A “butch” routine is seen through by more people than even a feminine routine at times, and looks as affected as anything you claim about a feminine guy…like I said earlier, if you are top or bottom, as long as you’re getting it from a man, whether you are masculine or feminine in your mannerisms is COMPLETELY irrelevant, and your level of masculinity or femininity only matters to people hung up on such things…yeah. I like other masculine guys, duh, but I don’t put down feminine guys, nor do I buy this crap that masculine gay men are underrepresented on TV…maybe it’s because most of the time they are a boring lot as much as their heterosexual counterparts…their dullness has little to offer TV audiences.