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	<title>Comments on: Closeted athlete: What&#8217;s your take?</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Farber</title>
		<link>http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/2009/03/10/closeted-athlete-whats-your-take/comment-page-1/#comment-5225</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Farber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This film is weak on many levels. Editing, cinematography, lighting. 

The premise is a little played out as well, don&#039;t you think? I&#039;d like to see some new, fresh ideas, rather than the repackaged boy-likes-boy-family-finds-out-boy-dies formula. If you want to see a good attempt at remaking the whole &quot;coming out&quot; genre - look at Shelter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This film is weak on many levels. Editing, cinematography, lighting. </p>
<p>The premise is a little played out as well, don&#8217;t you think? I&#8217;d like to see some new, fresh ideas, rather than the repackaged boy-likes-boy-family-finds-out-boy-dies formula. If you want to see a good attempt at remaking the whole &#8220;coming out&#8221; genre &#8211; look at Shelter.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Guckin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Guckin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;From an agnostic quickly becoming an atheist: “God bless you, Joe Guckin, for being the clueless lout who’s immune to sentiment simply because you’ve sought no cure for your ADD! No wonder you’re playing solitaire in life.”&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, well, from an extreme agnostic who is never going to take the final leap into atheism: Just because some filmmaker makes a piece of crap so pretentious and, even worse, so boring that I lost interest after a minute, doesn&#039;t make me immune to sentiment. (You&#039;re obviously not around every time I get teary-eyed watching the final pitch of the 2008 World Series.   :smile: )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>From an agnostic quickly becoming an atheist: “God bless you, Joe Guckin, for being the clueless lout who’s immune to sentiment simply because you’ve sought no cure for your ADD! No wonder you’re playing solitaire in life.”</i></p>
<p>Yeah, well, from an extreme agnostic who is never going to take the final leap into atheism: Just because some filmmaker makes a piece of crap so pretentious and, even worse, so boring that I lost interest after a minute, doesn&#8217;t make me immune to sentiment. (You&#8217;re obviously not around every time I get teary-eyed watching the final pitch of the 2008 World Series.   <img src='http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roman.  Life never needed to evolve beyond Word Perfect and since I work for Dept of Interior we use (manditory) Word  now for 3 years.  I bought a dell Notebook 2 yrs ago and they still gave me WP.  
Bill is the richest man on earth because he suppressed any and all start ups and even biggies in their  day from competing w/him.  He did us no service as we might be way further ahead but for his market control and cheaper software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roman.  Life never needed to evolve beyond Word Perfect and since I work for Dept of Interior we use (manditory) Word  now for 3 years.  I bought a dell Notebook 2 yrs ago and they still gave me WP.<br />
Bill is the richest man on earth because he suppressed any and all start ups and even biggies in their  day from competing w/him.  He did us no service as we might be way further ahead but for his market control and cheaper software.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
		<link>http://outsports.com/jocktalkblog/2009/03/10/closeted-athlete-whats-your-take/comment-page-1/#comment-5218</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t too crazy about the flick.  I agree that it&#039;s supposed to be two brothers (i.e., no adultery), neither of whom had yet come to terms with the one&#039;s homosexuality.  I thought that the cinematography of the accident scene was GREAT, but that part of the storyline was a little &quot;too convenient&quot; and just cheapened the rest of the flick, in my humble opinion.  And I didn&#039;t get the impression that he was suicidal; he just didn&#039;t know how to deal with himself and was ashamed of who he was; so he was leaving so that he didn&#039;t have to deal with his brother&#039;s/family&#039;s disappointment while he was trying to come to terms with it himself.

The song at the beginning, according to my iPhone App, is:

Artist:  I Muvrini 
Song:  Anu Lasciatu
Album: Terra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t too crazy about the flick.  I agree that it&#8217;s supposed to be two brothers (i.e., no adultery), neither of whom had yet come to terms with the one&#8217;s homosexuality.  I thought that the cinematography of the accident scene was GREAT, but that part of the storyline was a little &#8220;too convenient&#8221; and just cheapened the rest of the flick, in my humble opinion.  And I didn&#8217;t get the impression that he was suicidal; he just didn&#8217;t know how to deal with himself and was ashamed of who he was; so he was leaving so that he didn&#8217;t have to deal with his brother&#8217;s/family&#8217;s disappointment while he was trying to come to terms with it himself.</p>
<p>The song at the beginning, according to my iPhone App, is:</p>
<p>Artist:  I Muvrini<br />
Song:  Anu Lasciatu<br />
Album: Terra</p>
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		<title>By: RomanFingers</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomanFingers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a complete aside, do you folks out there hate Microsoft&#039;s Word as much as I do? Everytime I try to post a corrected version of one of my (admittedly verbose) comments, Word for some reason posts my immediately previous copy without the corrections! It is absolutely maddening that Bill Gates is the richest man on Earth, don&#039;t you agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a complete aside, do you folks out there hate Microsoft&#8217;s Word as much as I do? Everytime I try to post a corrected version of one of my (admittedly verbose) comments, Word for some reason posts my immediately previous copy without the corrections! It is absolutely maddening that Bill Gates is the richest man on Earth, don&#8217;t you agree?</p>
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		<title>By: RomanFingers</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomanFingers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an agnostic quickly becoming an atheist: &quot;God bless you, Joe Guckin, for being the clueless lout who&#039;s immune to sentiment simply because you&#039;ve sought no cure for your ADD! No wonder you&#039;re playing solitaire in life.&quot; As to those who can see meaning even beyond noble amateur &quot;Utrecht Film School&quot; attempts to capture the complexities and implications of being gay in a family, surely the romantic melancholy of this movie must stir empathy for the suffering born of silence that many of us in our teen &amp; post-teen years may have felt darkened our lives. What astounds me most about this clip is the fact that it comes from the Netherlands, one of the most socially progressive countries on Earth. Can you begin to imagine how conflicted &amp; hopeless gay kids, as well as their families who care, must feel when &quot;the Love that bear not speak its Name&quot; is discovered within themselves &amp; their loved ones. I can still see how dark my closet was when everyone who surrounded me, family &amp; friends, seemed so unwaveringly straight &amp; as therefore as quietly bigoted as the most moronic of outspoken homophobes. Whom do you trust then? The answer has got to be yourself, knowing that the world outside of the closet has got to be less dark, more open to moments of joy in the daylight. Find a safe haven, dear young promising human being, and try to safely get used to the fact that you, too, deserve your place in the sun. The folks who love you may find it hard to adjust, but that was often the case for me that they were embarrassed in not being &quot;omniscient&quot; enough to have figured it out before. As to those who will hate you no matter what, defend yourself, but move on. Life has such great promise for your future if you know yourself for whom you really are, honestly ready to engage the world that&#039;s waiting for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an agnostic quickly becoming an atheist: &#8220;God bless you, Joe Guckin, for being the clueless lout who&#8217;s immune to sentiment simply because you&#8217;ve sought no cure for your ADD! No wonder you&#8217;re playing solitaire in life.&#8221; As to those who can see meaning even beyond noble amateur &#8220;Utrecht Film School&#8221; attempts to capture the complexities and implications of being gay in a family, surely the romantic melancholy of this movie must stir empathy for the suffering born of silence that many of us in our teen &amp; post-teen years may have felt darkened our lives. What astounds me most about this clip is the fact that it comes from the Netherlands, one of the most socially progressive countries on Earth. Can you begin to imagine how conflicted &amp; hopeless gay kids, as well as their families who care, must feel when &#8220;the Love that bear not speak its Name&#8221; is discovered within themselves &amp; their loved ones. I can still see how dark my closet was when everyone who surrounded me, family &amp; friends, seemed so unwaveringly straight &amp; as therefore as quietly bigoted as the most moronic of outspoken homophobes. Whom do you trust then? The answer has got to be yourself, knowing that the world outside of the closet has got to be less dark, more open to moments of joy in the daylight. Find a safe haven, dear young promising human being, and try to safely get used to the fact that you, too, deserve your place in the sun. The folks who love you may find it hard to adjust, but that was often the case for me that they were embarrassed in not being &#8220;omniscient&#8221; enough to have figured it out before. As to those who will hate you no matter what, defend yourself, but move on. Life has such great promise for your future if you know yourself for whom you really are, honestly ready to engage the world that&#8217;s waiting for you.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know where the bagpipe music in the beginning came from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know where the bagpipe music in the beginning came from?</p>
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		<title>By: boomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another tragic storyline with a gay guy dying...add some self-loathing and promiscuity to complete the cliché trifecta...yawn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another tragic storyline with a gay guy dying&#8230;add some self-loathing and promiscuity to complete the cliché trifecta&#8230;yawn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Guckin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Guckin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About 30 seconds in I opened up a solitaire game and started playing while watching. About 4 minutes in I couldn&#039;t even bother to watch any more of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About 30 seconds in I opened up a solitaire game and started playing while watching. About 4 minutes in I couldn&#8217;t even bother to watch any more of it.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, very touching responses, fellas. From what I caught early on is that the guy in the video had a one night stand and is regretting what he did and isn&#039;t very confident with himself. I mean, let&#039;s face it. When you realize you&#039;ve got an attraction to the same sex the confidence you have will be in the depths of BFE since it will be seen as &quot;weird&quot; by friends, family, peers, etc. 

The movie begins with the brother there. I believe that&#039;s his brother who yells at the headstone because he didn&#039;t accept his sibling for who he was and his demeanor was the cause of the accident. As you can see the accident is not a suicide and is just an unfortunate event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, very touching responses, fellas. From what I caught early on is that the guy in the video had a one night stand and is regretting what he did and isn&#8217;t very confident with himself. I mean, let&#8217;s face it. When you realize you&#8217;ve got an attraction to the same sex the confidence you have will be in the depths of BFE since it will be seen as &#8220;weird&#8221; by friends, family, peers, etc. </p>
<p>The movie begins with the brother there. I believe that&#8217;s his brother who yells at the headstone because he didn&#8217;t accept his sibling for who he was and his demeanor was the cause of the accident. As you can see the accident is not a suicide and is just an unfortunate event.</p>
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