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Weir Eye for the Skate Guy

A Dutch view of Shani Davis; a Chill on the Ice; Skating a "Gay" Sport?

By Outsports.com

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Feb. 20 action

We're Here, We're Weir: Hey everybody -- don't miss "Olympic Ice," which comes on USA every night at 6 p.m. EST. Olympic skating hosts Mary Carillo, Dick Button and Scott Hamilton are giving us what USA calls "an all-access pass inside the world of figure skating with a mix of breaking news, in-depth analysis and exclusive athlete interviews." 

Actually the hour-long show is on the guerrilla and unscripted side, with off-the-top-of-the-head red-carpet chatter along with the news.  Maybe some smart network executive realized that an antidote would be needed for the doom-and-gloom we-must-win-tons-of-medals stuff.  Turns out that Carillo, Button and Hamilton are pretty funny (at least I thought they were).  There are silly skits -- the type of thing that Johnny Carson used to do on his show.

Sunday, the Olympic Ice posse interviewed Johnny Weir.  He had visibly calmed down and lightened up after his medals debacle.  There was no more talk of missed buses and missing auras.  Johnny assured Carillo that he has learned a lot and is ready to work hard and come back better next time around.  The atmosphere was positive, light-hearted... and at one point Mary Carillo declared that there was going to be a new cable show titled  "Weir Eye for the Skate Guy."

USA splashed the title across the screen in huge letters. Which is the closest that the networks have come to dealing openly with Weir's sexual orientation. (Patricia Nell Warren)

No need to come out: Reading Patricia's note has convinced me that Weir is out without ever saying the words and he knows we know it. Segment titles like "Weir Eye for the Skate Guy" and "He's Here, He's Weir" don't come about by accident and it's apparent that Weir is on winking at us all. I'm all for Johnny to reveal as much as he wishes on his own terms and am enjoying the show. How soon before he gets a show on Logo?  (Jim Buzinski)

Weir and the Media: For a good overview of media coverage of Weir and the gay issue, check out this article on After Elton.com

What sport you calling gay?  From a letter to the editor in today's Washington Pos from Allison Manley of Chicago:

Only in America is figure skating labeled a "gay" sport ["Out? In? Or Past All That? Johnny Weir's Fancy-Free Skate," Style, Feb. 17].

First, a study done a few years ago on how fit one must be to be an elite figure skater and get through a 4 1/2 -minute program found that skating requirements beat both basketball and football. For someone to rotate in the air three or four times and land on a narrow blade takes more balance, strength and power than running for a touchdown. Male figure skaters are some of the strongest and best-conditioned athletes in the world.

Second, which sport sounds more "gay": A bunch of men in tights grabbing pigskin from between a man's legs and slapping each other on the behind after a good play, or a man in tights working with a flexible, muscular woman and lifting her above his head?

If the straight boys in this country were smart, they'd sign up for skating lessons. Not only would they get into fantastic physical condition, but skating is a surefire way to meet girls.

What about Shani?: I have to ask: Is Shani Davis gay? We all know he is a mama's boy, but I'm serious. How can you be as much drama as Shani Davis was during that interview following his gold medal victory, and not be gay? That dude had drama oozing from from his eyes down through his entire body. Only we are allowed to do that much drama. If that dude is not gay, then he must have studied "gay drama culture" because he was mastering it to a T. LOL (Amazin 12, a veteran Outsports poster).

Rebuttal from Richman, a Dutch poster and speed skating fan:
Actually Shani has a Canadian girlfriend, also an Olympic skater, Shannon Rempel. At least he did before Christmas; not sure what's going on with that now. I do not get a gay vibe off him at all.

The Dutch view on Shani: I find it so unfortunate the way everyone is on Shani Davis' case. I did not see the NBC interview but I can tell you the interview he granted Dutch TV was just fine and he was quite happy.

Also, notice the reaction he received from other international skaters who were truly happy for him. Shani trains in Calgary with the Canadians and splits his time between short track and long track. In Holland he is a household name and he is respected and, more importantly, accepted. That does not appear to be the case on home soil.

Someone else mentioned the ad-hoc way of putting together the USA team pursuit team. It needs to be said that Shani has NEVER skated the event before (and most likely never been asked prior to the Olympics) and the USA was going up against Italian, Canadian and Dutch teams that had practiced for this. The Italians have been focusing on this team event for two years and it showed. The event requires a stunning amount of teamwork and strategy and it would not have been smart to chuck him in in the last minute.

Someone else also made the point that EVERY medal is a medal for the USA. All the skaters who skated in pursuit did not manage to skate to their potential in the 1,000 -- such is the toll they had to pay. [Chad] Hedrick is full of shit and a selfish sore loser. Shani is a champion and I hope he beats Hedrick in their head to head duel. [Joey] Cheek is the class act of the group, but it really disappoints me how so much of America is so anti-Shani without really knowing and understanding his reasonings which really were sound.

For the record, Eric Heiden is NOT as negative as many people try to paint him. He said many positive things about Shani and all people focus on is the one sound byte where he is not a team player. People, speed skating is not a team sport. (Richman, a speed skating fan from the Netherlands, where it's practically the national sport)

A hottie revealed: During the Opening Ceremonies, the group I was watching with all agreed that this one Slovenian athlete was super attractive. We posted his pic but had no idea who he was. In Oklahoma, an Outsports reader named Michael was also watching, noticed the guy and decided to track down who he is. Michael wrote three e-mails to the Slovenian Olympic Committe and finally got his answer on Monday and called me: The jock is Andrej Jerman, 27, a 6-1, 194-pound downhill skier. Another great mystery solved. (Jim Buzinski)

On the ice: There is a figure skating rule that says costumes should be designed to look naturally athletic. I don’t know about athletic, but most of the costumes unveiled over three nights of ice dancing were out of control. Elena Grushina, the female skater in the Ukrainian pair that won bronze, looked dressed to do a pole dance on the Vegas Strip.

 

Congratulations to Belbin/Agosto for becoming the first Americans to win an ice dancing medal in 30 years.

 

The Russians have now won all three figure skating gold medals given out so far in Torino and look to make it four when the ladies take to the ice for their short program Tuesday. Irina Slutskaya is favored to win that competition.

 

Once again, though, it was the Italian pair who made the final night of ice dancing so fun to watch. A day after slipping and dropping his partner, Maurizio Margaglio still appeared to be in the doghouse as he arrived alone at the arena Monday. His partner, Barbara Fusar Poli, had glared at him after the fall last night but completely ignored him before tonight’s program. NBC had no lack of footage of the Italians snubbing each other backstage. Somehow, the two managed to skate well and her attitude changed drastically.

 

I don’t understand women, but after seeing her glares on Sunday, I’m afraid of this one. The roller coaster 24 hours seemed finally to get to Maurizio and he could be seen backstage crying afterwards. Ah, the drama of figure skating never disappoints. (Ryan Quinn)

 

"And the Grammy goes to . . . " Am I the only one who thinks these medals with the hole in them are cheesy? A couple times they've flashed up on the screen and my initial reaction was, "why is this person holding a CD?" When the men's 10k cross-country skiing relay teams took the podium and held up their medals, it really looked like they had just accepted an award at the Grammies or something. Bad design. (Cyd Zeigler Jr.)

Hot jock of the day: It's hard not to focus on Benjamin "Bennie" Raich, the 28-year-old Austrian who won the men's giant slalom. "I have won many races," said Raich. "But now I am an Olympic champion. I am very, very happy." NBC did a long feature early with him during the Games that showed how his dad cut down a special tree and put a strip of the wood into his son's skis to make them go faster. Whatever. We were more interested in all the close-ups of Bennie, called the "Blitz from Pitz," from the region of Austria where he lives. Raich has a very extensive website with tons of pics. (Jim Buzinski)

A bronze works for me. I was talking today with the girlfriend of one of the women on the U.S. women's hockey team today. "She got a bronze," I said to her gleefully. "Yeah, bittersweet," she said. Bittersweet? OK, the U.S. hadn't missed a gold-medal game since women's hockey was introduced to the Olympics. But, a bronze medal in the Olympics? It completes the hat trick for the U.S.: a gold, silver and bronze in the last three Winter Games.  (Cyd Zeigler Jr.)

"Dad?" A South Korean man is claiming that Toby Dawson, the bronze medalist in moguls in Turin, is his son. Dawson has been searching for his biological father for years; he was adopted in the 1980s by an American family. Dawson says that other people have claimed to be his long-lost family; and that's got to be hard on the kid. I actually feel bad for him; I hope this guy is his dad, if only so he doesn't have to go through a big production just to be disappointed again.  (Cyd Zeigler Jr.)

Bode Speaks. I was one of the 19 people today who actually got suckered into JoinBode.com, the Web site about the Olympic skier that Nike has pumped tons of money to promote, and which I can only imagine has had a sinking readership as these Olympics have gone on.

On the site you can find a bunch of short video segments of Miller waxing poetic about some of the issues he faces in life. Some of my favs:

You almost have to think this was written these past two weeks: "I go in as a favorite in almost every event. If I were to go and participate to the top of my ability, really race in a way that made me proud, you know, I'd put down performances that would make people inspired, that they would witness that I was doing everything I could, but somehow the circumstances allowed me to leave with no medals. I think that would be something that would make people address the fact that sometimes the inspiration and the really powerful performances don't correspond directly with gold medals or with standing on top of the podium."

Analysis almost as bad as the Three Chuckleheads on ESPN's Sunday Night Football: "It's a process. Golf is, that's one of the cool things about golf, is it is a process from start to finish anyway, um, or, at least, people recognize it as a process more than some sports and, um, you can take the shortcuts but I think, if you want to enjoy the process, shortcuts are just gypping yourself out of more process."

Asked "How do you feel about this idea of being a sex symbol?": "If it gets me more sex, then great."

At a fake medal ceremony rehearsal (clearly wasted energy): "I never wear pants in an interview if I have a choice. I didn't put a shirt on for years and years. After I was born, I was a straight coat kid. If it was that cold I wore a coat, if was not I didn't wear anything."

On authority: "A lot of the cops or a lot of the people who are in positions of authority are there just by default or by a random sequence of events or for all the wrong reasons, as opposed to somebody who's got a really great sense of morals or principles or whatever." (Cyd Zeigler Jr.)

Germany 1 pilot Andre Lange, right, and brakeman Kevin Kuske celebrate after winning the gold medal in the Two-Man Bobsled 
(NBC Olympics)

More German bobsled celebration 
(BSD portal)

With tongue 
(BSD portal)

A leg up 
(BSD portal)

Grabbing for it
(BSD portal)

Austria's Benjamin Raich is elated and exhausted after winning the gold medal in men's giant slalom alpine skiing
(NBC Olympics)

Switzerland's Romano Lemm is checked into the glass during a preliminary round men's ice hockey match against Germany
(NBC Olympics)

Thomas Morgenstern, 19, leads Austria to ski jump team gold
(SI.com)

Tatiana Navka and Roman Kostomarov give Russia ice dancing gold
(SI.com)

The Canadian women celebrate their ice hockey gold
(SI.com)

 

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